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Chris Schuck's avatar

I'm so glad you discussed this book, as I've been hearing a lot about it lately (anti-antimetically, I suppose), and wanted to check it out. It would be interesting to hear more thoughts on the book itself; especially, what the implications would be any failure to engage with media theory and the tendency to equate memes/antimemes with ideas, while ignoring phenomenology and embodiment. How should this alter our conclusions? Would it imply, for instance, that antimemetic patterns in face-to-face, IRL communication are just as influential as the ones emphasized in the book? Or, that antimemetics as a theory becomes incoherent if we take all media formats (not just virtual screens) into account?

I'm no expert on that Rationalist tech scene, but one striking feature is a certain ahistorical mindset and absence of humanities influences; pro-reason, but simultaneously anti-intellectual. A lot of media theory is not worlds apart from critical theory and those Continental traditions. You sometimes get the sense that people in those circles aren't so aware of older thinkers or theoretical lineages, and are attempting to engage with many of the same issues but with a presentist (or futurist) bent.

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Dan Davies's avatar

the antimeme seems like it might be related to the "negative template", a construction from Peter Dale Scott which I always use professionally when reading government communication. Asking yourself the question "what is the important thing which might have been naturally mentioned here, but which is not?" is often the key to understanding such texts.

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